Comment on: On non-rooted Android 17, ADB uninstall of system apps fails
GrapheneOS has minimal, private [1] system apps so you don't have to debloat anything yourself. Manual debloating is not a good solution at the user level.Some system apps are being overhauled, so that's something to look forward to. Gallery will be [2] based on ReFra [3].[1] Except phone and messaging but that's the cell network.GrapheneOS recommends Signal/Molly or SimpleX instead.[2] https://nitter.net/GrapheneOS/status/2083724696722301266#m[3] https://github.com/IacobIonut01/ReFra
Comment on: On non-rooted Android 17, ADB uninstall of system apps fails
GrapheneOS or other custom ROMs don't solve the actual problem that you can't just buy a smartphone and install any operating system like you can with an actual computer, despite technically being one.Also, GrapheneOS supports device attestation (the non-google kind at least), which is still ridiculous as such systems have no benefit to people, only to technofeudalist corporations.
Comment on: On non-rooted Android 17, ADB uninstall of system apps fails
Every single reboot on my lower end Motorola phone, they have decided it fit to re-enable com.glance.lockscreenM every single boot and on every single update.It's horrible. I don't think I can trust them to produce a Graphene phone at all, really, despite all of everyone's assurances.
Comment on: On non-rooted Android 17, ADB uninstall of system apps fails
And Graphene OS is also anti-user by being tremendously rude about NOT providing root and using the same tired "suck-u-rity" crap Google and Apple also use.If you're smart enough to buy a phone that supports GrapheneOS, AND install it, yeah you should have root.And tools like XPrivacy and plugins allow control of subsystems like GPS spoofing and lying to apps.
Comment on: On non-rooted Android 17, ADB uninstall of system apps fails
> I use adb to uninstall all of the system apps like facebookI've only ever used Cyanogen/Lineage or Graphene, so I had no idea this was a thing. I'm not surprised but ... WOOF.
Comment on: On non-rooted Android 17, ADB uninstall of system apps fails
This sucks. I use adb to uninstall all of the system apps like facebook, youtube, web browser, etc. to give myself a minimalist, distraction-free phone that still has niche apps, maps, and communication apps. Might have to look into the expensive light phones as an alternative now if this update hits my phone.
Comment on: On non-rooted Android 17, ADB uninstall of system apps fails
If this is your stance it's trivial to have your cake and eat it. You can easily build your own GrapheneOS based image, which will then be unable to use attestation (because your own keys you'll use for the secure boot won't match).And I'm not trying to be snarky, if that's the only thing, it's solvable right now. Everything else will work.And concerning "you can't just buy a device and install is" - android and iOS are far more secure than any desktop os, and both pixel/iPhones are far more secure than any computer (or any other phone as well (we'll get the third one next year)). GrapheneOS a