Comment on: Lovable raises $400M Series C
any open source alternative?
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any open source alternative?
I think it's time we start questioning more of the valley's mindset when it comes to good business and software practices. From lived experience it typically results in unhealthy work environments at best and society destroying at worse. Is this really the best way to write software? I'd but my life's savings no, it's not. No way in hell.
hey it's their PR statement who insists it's not just for prototype but real apps which do real work are being used in production. "where are they?" is a fair question
For a lot of companies these tools exist in the world of shadow IT spend, so they can go on being paid customers with no usage, tied to various IC accounts/credit cards for a long, long time.
My personal mental model is that this is the AI version of the low-code web app tools that have existed for a while (like Outsystems, Power Apps...). Those tools are a bit of a nightmare for devs to work with and they have all sorts of limitations. Yet they still carved themselves a fairly significant niche in the market, as they allow building apps fairly quickly and cheaply... as long as you stick to simple apps. I don't know if Lovable will be able to capture that market, but that's how I try to make sense of this.
Doubt. My daughter wanted to make a static web to publish illustrated stories she made an such. I happened to have a Loveable subscription I forgot to cancel so I figured she can at least prototype it there.Well, it did the web site alright, the process was smooth. She even asked AI to translate stories and it just did.But the problem is that it was not what I would call a static web site: it was React bullshit, a SPA. The content was actually in typescript !!! Given that it's not actually static content it won't get indexed.(And I really doubt SSR would be a good solution here.)
Not so. People still need a platform to host their app so that it is accessible online.A smarter model is never going to magically start hosting apps no matter how smart it is. Hosting costs money and requires constant monitoring and maintenance.I'm more worried about AI becoming a cheap, unprofitable commodity than I am for these user-facing platforms which intermediate user relationships and control hold all their data.Data is a lot more sticky than a natural language interface. I can swap out Claude Code for Codex tomorrow and I probably wouldn't notice any difference nowadays.It's even les
Not at all - how do you build a classified site on Wix/Framer ? Afaik they are for only static/marketing sites - plus a cms to host a blog.These are all apps with multi-tenancy - database backed - payment integrations - the works. The classified site (marketcity.org) has features like user chats/dms, social media sharing, paid upgrades etc.Actually now the capabilities are dramatically increasing - you can now vibecode like a python based image/video processing pipeline directly - all through a webapp. And very soon - something more ambitious, like finetune an LLM - again all through a simple
There's one time I meant to search somebody's email address in our internal system but I accidentally searched it in Google instead because I forgot to put in the custom search operator in the URL/search barI actually got a Google search result back because a business's internal CMS and marketing systems had gotten indexed which had their full email list with the capabilities to delete and send newsletters. The email address I searched had subscribed to this business's newsletter which got it indexedIt appeared it was built by LovableI'm all for vibe coding too but there's a good chance when p
The problem with your mental model is that you're thinking the product is "code" when the product is "a finished product"CC is a horrible product for building a finished website. With CC you still have to host it somewhere. On Vercel, get a DB somewhere or tell it to use SQLite, which no one knows what that is. You have to install it and use a terminal which no one knows how to do. Even if you already know how to code, surely you can imagine a product that is EXACTLY CC but also has hosting, infra, etc built in. e.g. CC + Supabase. You might not use it, but for sure it is easier.In terms of w
yeah, I agree with those things in the abstract.But then I remember all the absolutely horrible half finished internal software most companies have(never enough time, often afterthought, cutting corners etc) and then I saw those internal Lovable apps made by people who actually needed those.And now it's not so clear anymore!Half baked ugly app does by the engineer who doesn't need it and don't want to fix bug vs pretty Lovable app made by people who use it everyday.
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