Comment on: Ask HN: Which open source versions of SaaS products would you like to see?
Most of the answers are going to be products that do extensive lock in as a service. So its easy to replace quickbooks with dozens if not hundreds of old or current accounting software but only quickbooks has the integration with seemingly every financial service out there. Another example is Slack, when people ask for a replacement for Slack they don't mean "IRC in a GUI" but they mean chat with maybe a thousand integrations to every other service and product, so no matter how you configure IRC it'll never had a thousand one click integrations.The next most popular answer will be defining u
Comment on: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work
Yeah, with love the words "open source" mean a lot less here (de facto, of course not de jure) when the resulting open source product is entirely contingent on Cloudflare's PaaS.And I think they suffer a little a little bit from their infrastructure being _comparatively_ unique. As providers go, they're on the harder end to replace with something else if you were to ever want to retarget your workloads.
Comment on: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work
So, that means even more pressure on OpenAI and Anthropic. I really don’t see how they will stay competitive long term. Cloudflare can offers way better product by integrating with the rest of their platform and offering a variety of models, including open models they host themselves
Comment on: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work
No, no you're not. This is another stab at gatekeeping the internet. It's no different to the playbook as of Google, Apple, and Facebook. An extra wall to the walled gardens you need to jump if you do and want to break free.Example, firefox on FreeBSD instantly triggers unlimited loops of "prove your human" on their turnstile. I can't use of android versions of handheld devices without being denied. VPN triggers all. Anything that they don't see as "secure" you're locked out.Who decides your device is secure? You know the co' Google, Microsoft and Apple to name a few. If they don't want you us
Comment on: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work
Indeed, at this point it's one of the most devalued terms in software. Every week I'm reading about some product calling itself "the Operating System for XYZ." It seems like it's what you do when "platform" just feels too modest. To me, if it's not bootable, calling your product an OS just reeks of marketing sleight of hand.
Comment on: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work
You can easily be locked in as Cloudflare's suite of tools can be quite exotic, and the dev ops for them can look quite unlike anything else. But you can also easily mentally estimate the magnitude of lock-in for every weird tool or technology that you use.If you only do SPA/SSR websites over workers, then Cloudlfare has about zero lock in. Add in the sqlite? Well, it's just sqlite, but it's Cloudlfare's sqlite so there's still some learning to do. And the vector database? And the really exotic and powerful one, their durable objects.Also as someone else has noted, Cloudflare is big and boring
Comment on: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work
Really not a fan of calling things an OS that are not an OS. This seems interesting, but it is also tied to CloudFlare workers, so beware.
Comment on: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work
I don't get itHow is this different than the capabilities which cowork by claude / chat gpt desktop apps now a days give in terms of core capabilities.The fact that you can maybe fetch bugs from jira and present in the way you want is true for any of the agentic orchestrators, so is it really the USP ?One difference I found against other orchestrators was that they work on a per seat billing model. Example if you have 10 team members who want access to a shared agent infrastructure, you would end up paying 10 * 20$ = 200$ per month while in this case it is probably just the AI and infrastructu
Comment on: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work
It looks to me like they just wanted to distinguish their product from other AI agents/sandboxes, so they called it an OS to make it sound bigger and better.
Comment on: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work
Setting up your public URLRetrying… (attempt 5 of 6)
Fingers crossed!! The last one gotta be the one...EDIT: It let me down... (Something unexpected went wrong on our side.)Please let me now if deploying it on your custom domain worked for you please...EDIT: Retrying it now worked but I had to subscribe to R2 (which is free for 10GB apparently). However, after that it will tell you that you need to enable the Dynamic Workers which is actually paid..."Your Cloudflare account is on the Free plan, but the Cloudflare OS backend needs Dynamic Workers, which requires the Workers Paid plan."So no fre
Comment on: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work
>This doesn't work in the cloud Software-as-a-Service model, because you are not running your own copy of the app.Let me introduce you to scrapling+MCP--the closest I've come.Stealthed, controllable browser gives you an API to arbitrary web thingsYou can't modify it, but you can extend it which imo is the next best thingadb (Android) is close albeit a bit more tedious. It's fun watching an LLM take screenshots, read them, then send input events back to the phone.If you have a rooted Android, you _can_ modify the apps. Xposed, ReVanced, et al subject to Play Integrity's ever growing pervasivene
Comment on: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work
Workers is a product and you're paid to develop and sell it as an employee.I 100% understand the hustle. I do the same thing. I just don't trust a giant like Cloudflare that has done several things to weaken the open web and establish a position that is all too powerful. I don't want to give them an iota of support. Even using open source buys into their mindshare, distribution, ecosystem, and eventual supremacy and lock-in.I'd buy this from a smaller company for sure. Just not from Google, AWS, Cloudflare.If this was a YC startup I'd have given you my credit card info already.I don't know wha